Lord Ahmed Threatens UK Democracy With 10,000 Terrorists
Jew, Christian bashing Lord Ahmed
brings Islamic Jihad into English House of Lords.
Israel News Agency
--- February 14, 2009...... Illustrating Islamic Jihad in England,
Lord Ahmed has threatened to mobilize 10,000 Jihadists against
the English Parliament.
Hamas supporting Ahmed was responding to a member of the England
House of Lords to invite colleagues to a private meeting in
a conference room in the House of Lords to meet the Dutch politician
Geert Wilders. Wilders is an elected member of the Dutch parliament
who was invited to screen his anti-terrorism movie Fitna.
branded the British Government the biggest bunch of cowards
in Europe after he flew in to Heathrow yesterday and was
promptly put on the first plane back.
am going to Great Britain because I was invited by another politician
[the UKIP peer Lord Pearson of Rannoch]. I am a democrat. I
am serving freedom of speech. They are not only being nasty
to me, they are being nasty to freedom of speech. They are more
Chamberlain than Churchill," said Wilders.
MP had been invited to attend a showing of his 17-minute film
at the House of Lords by Lord Pearson. The film features verses
from the Koran with images of terrorist attacks in New York,
London and Madrid, and calls on Muslims to remove hate-preaching
verses from the text. Lord Pearson said that the screening would
go ahead regardless.
decision to refuse Wilders entry provoked Maxime Verhagen, the
Dutch Foreign Minister, to call David Miliband, the UK Foreign
Secretary, to protest against the decision. The fact that
a Dutch parliamentarian is refused entry to another EU country
is highly regrettable, Mr Verhagen said.
House of Lords is a venerable British institution, but what
does one get if one accepts Muslims in?
member of the Lords intended to invite her colleagues to a private
meeting in a conference room in the House of Lords to meet the
Dutch politician Geert Wilders, an elected member of the Dutch
parliament, to watch his controversial movie Fitna and
discuss the movie and Wilders opinions with him.
had the invitation been sent to all the members of the House
when Lord Ahmed raised hell. He threatened to mobilize 10,000
Muslims to prevent Wilders from entering the House and threatened
to take the colleague who was organizing the event to court.
The result is that the event, which should have taken place
last Thursday was cancelled. But after several hours of discussions
on freedom of speech the event was placed back on.
Ahmed immediately went to the Pakistan press to boast about
his achievement, which he calls a victory for the Muslim
victory for the Muslim community, but a defeat for British democracy
where topics to which Muslims object cannot even be debated.
That, apparently, is what one gets when one accepts Muslims
into the UK House of Lords.
Ahmed is considered to be a moderate Muslim. The
Pakistan born Nazir Ahmed became the United Kingdoms first
Muslim life peer in 1998. He is a member of the Labour Party
and was appointed to the Lords by Tony Blair. Lord Ahmed took
his oath on the Koran. He led one of the first delegations on
behalf of the British Government on the Muslim pilgrimage of
the Hajj, to Saudi Arabia. In February 2005, Lord Ahmed hosted
an inciteful, hate smitten book launch in the House of Lords
for anti-Zionist author Israel Shamir. In 2007, he responded
to the award of a knighthood to Salman Rushdie by stating that
he was appalled, saying that Rushdie had blood on his
Ahmed was among the founders of The World Forum, an organization
set up to promote world peace in the aftermath of 9/11
with an effort to build bridges of understanding between The
Muslim World and the West by reviving a tradition of Dialogue
between people, cultures and civilizations based on tolerance.
Thomas Landen of the Brussels Journals states: "What does
dialogue mean to those who make discussion about
controversial issues impossible? Thank you, Mr. Blair, for bringing
diversity to the House of Lords."
had doubted the extent to which Britain has capitulated to Islamic
terror, the banning of Geert Wilders into England, the home
of the Magna Carta, should surely open their eyes. Wilders,
the Dutch member of parliament who had made an uncompromising
stand against the Koranic sources of Islamist extremism and
violence, was due to give a screening of Fitna, his film on
this subject, at the House of Lords on Thursday. This meeting
had been postponed after Lord Ahmed had previously threatened
the House of Lords authorities that he would bring a force of
10,000 Muslims to lay siege to the Lords if Wilders was allowed
to speak. To their credit, the Lords authorities had stood firm
and said extra police would be drafted in to meet this threat
and the Wilders meeting should go ahead.
shortly afterwards the British government announced that it
was banning Wilders from the country. A letter from the Home
Secretarys office to Wilders, delivered via the British
embassy in the Hague, said: "the
Secretary of State is of the view that your presence in the
UK would pose a genuine, present and sufficiently serious threat
to one of the fundamental interests of society. The Secretary
of State is satisfied that your statements about Muslims and
their beliefs, as expressed in your film Fitna and elsewhere
would threaten community harmony and therefore public security
in the UK."
newspapers were not silent.
Times states today: "Again and again we are told
that Islam is a religion of peace and equality; how does that
tally with some of what the Koran says?
makes such anxieties really toxic is the feeling that they are
suppressed and ignored by our government. Critics of Islam,
however reasonable, know they are likely to fall foul of the
many new Labour laws against freedom of expression, in particular
against incitement to religious hatred, which was enacted under
despite these laws, which silence critics of Islam, Muslims
are allowed to teach views that are illegal in public mosques.
The awkward truth is that certain teachings in the Koran are
against the law in this country teachings about homosexuality
and the position of women, for example. In some places the Koran
and some other Muslim teachings are sexist, homophobic and likely
to incite religious hatred.
call the Koran fascist as Wilders has done is stupid,
empty and needlessly offensive. However, to say that some of
its teachings, taken literally, are unacceptable in this country
is merely to report a fact.....Wilders was kept away because
of tacit threats from some British Muslims who wont accept
criticism of any kind. I dont think the ban had much to
do with the equally, but differently, agitated feelings of the
non-Muslim majority: if Smith had considered them, she might
have realised that it was equally inflammatory not to let Wilders
in. David Miliband, our gaffe-prone young foreign secretary,
was quick to point out that Fitna is a hate-filled film
designed to stir up religious and racial hatred and is contrary
to our laws. But he then had to admit that he hadnt
seen it either."
Independent in an editorial says: "Joan Smith: Free
speech has to be for all, Home Secretary. Let's start by getting
a couple of things clear: Jacqui Smith is an idiot for banning
Geert Wilders, and even more of an idiot to do it after the
Government was lobbied to ban him by Lord Ahmed. The Home Secretary's
argument for refusing to admit Mr Wilders again (he was here
in December) is feeble; the only way his presence might threaten
public security is if there was an intemperate reaction by people
who don't like his views. Demands for a ban are based on the
same perverse reasoning that led to Salman Rushdie's being accused
of having "blood on his hands" by Lord Ahmed
because some idiots chose to respond violently to his
novel The Satanic Verses. According to this sophistry, it isn't
someone's fault if he loses his temper and hits me; it's mine
for upsetting him in the first place. It's
got so bad that when Channel 4's documentary Undercover Mosque
showed imams preaching hate in British mosques, the Crown Prosecution
Service and the West Midlands Police began investigating the
film-makers, coming to their senses only when they found themselves
on the wrong end of a libel action. I don't like Mr Wilders'
politics, but he doesn't advocate killing people, unlike Sheikh
Qaradawi, who was allowed into this country until someone belatedly
noticed that he supports suicide-bombing."
The Telegraph states: "Geert Wilders may be obnoxious,
but he was elected; Lord Ahmed was not. Lord Ahmed claims
that Wilders is guilty of incitement. He isn't. Being obnoxious
is not a criminal offence. To find someone guilty of incitement,
you need to show that they, you know, incited someone. Some
of the preachers that Wilders excoriates are guilty of incitement
in this sense, but this never seems to impede their entry and
re-entry into the UK. No doubt in future all members of the
Saudi Arabia ruling class will be denied entry, too. They do
not call for the banning of the Bible and outlawing of Christian
worship in their kingdom - they have done it. "
Phillips of the Spectator says: "So lets get
this straight. The British government allows people to march
through British streets screaming support for Hamas, it allows
Hizb ut Tahrir to recruit on campus for the jihad against Britain
and the west, it takes no action against a Muslim peer who threatens
mass intimidation of Parliament, but it bans from the country
a member of parliament of a European democracy who wishes to
address the British Parliament on the threat to life and liberty
in the west from religious fascism.
he, not them, who is considered a serious threat to one
of the fundamental interests of society. Why? Because
the result of this stand for life and liberty against those
who would destroy them might be an attack by violent thugs.
The response is not to face down such a threat of violence but
to capitulate to it instead.
the same reasoning that led the police on those pro-Hamas marches
to confiscate the Israeli flag, on the grounds that it would
provoke violence, while those screaming support for genocide
and incitement against the Jews were allowed to do so. The reasoning
was that the Israeli flag might provoke thuggery while the genocidal
incitement would not. So those actually promoting aggression
were allowed to do so while those who threatened no-one at all
were repressed. And now a Dutch politician who doesnt
threaten anyone is banned for telling unpalatable truths about
those who do; while those who threaten life and liberty find
that the more they do so, the more the British government will
do exactly what they want, in the interests of community
is a controversial politician, to be sure. But this is another
fateful and defining issue for Britains governing class
as it continues to sleepwalk into cultural suicide. If British
MPs do not raise hell about this banning order, if they go along
with this spinelessness, if they fail to stand up for the principle
that the British Parliament of all places must be free to hear
what a fellow democratically elected politician has to say about
one of the most difficult and urgent issues of our time, if
they fail to hold the line against the threat of violence but
capitulate to it instead, they will be signalling that Britain
is no longer the cradle of freedom and democracy but its graveyard."
Ahmed, has not only taken aim at Salmon Rushdie and Geert
Wilders but is openly advocating the arrest of British
Ahmed, has not only taken aim at Salmon Rushdie and Geert
Wilders but is openly advocating the arrest of British Jews.
asked Her Majesty's government if they were aware of British
citizens who may have been involved with the war crimes committed
by the Israeli Defense Force and Israeli Defense Reserves. Her
Majesty's government did not have any figures because dual nationals
do not have to inform the government. However, there are reports
in the Daily Mirror and The Sun with the names of British citizens
who have been fighting in Gaza," said Ahmed.
point I was making is that war crimes have been committed, white
phosphorous has been used and if there are people who have broken
the 4th Geneva Convention, then whoever they are, when they
return to this country, they should be arrested and charged
- unlike the Major General who escaped in 2005."
TV asked Ahmed: "Are you certain these are up to date reports
about British citizens serving in Israel?"
responded: "These are very new reports, dated January 2009,
of British citizens who have gone out to fight against the Palestinian
people as part of the IDF. Their names and ages are mentioned
in these reports. We know that there are student unions that
have been actively recruiting young people in Britain to join
the Israeli Defense Force and we also know that there are young
Jewish students who go and serve on the kibbutz and also in
schools, who are also then doing national service in Israel."
attempts to play divide and conquer with British Jews quoting
England MP and self-hating Jew Gerald Kaufman. "We know
that very fine members of parliament like Gerald Kaufman MP,
who is himself Jewish, very openly said that just because these
people were victims of the Holocaust does not mean they should
perpetrate another holocaust on the Palestinian people."
Gerald Kaufman is one of England's leading Jewish critics of
Israel. Kaufman has called for economic sanctions and an arms
ban against Israel, citing the success of such measures against
apartheid South Africa. He has called Israel a "pariah"
and its senior politicians "war criminals". Kaufman
also made a comparison of Hamas terror members in Gaza to the
Jewish resistance during World War II, saying: "The spokeswoman
for the Israel army, Major Leibovich, was asked about the Israeli
killing of Palestinians. She replied instantly that '500 of
them were militants'. That was the reply of a Nazi. I suppose
the Jews fighting for their lives in the Warsaw ghetto could
have been dismissed as militants." And he said: "It
is time for our government to make clear to the Israeli government
that its conduct and policies are unacceptable and to impose
a total arms ban on Israel.
sounds more like an Islamic Capo than a Jew. He actually supports
Hamas, a US defined terror organization, which openly declares
its intent to destroy all of Israel. Israel, which left Gaza
three years ago in a unilateral peace move, has been attacked
by over 8,000 missiles from Gaza in that time.
years ago, on February 14 1989, when the Iran Islamic leader,
Imam Khomeini delivered his fatwa calling for Salman Rushdie's
death, Ahmed was truly elated. It was a very welcome reminder
that British Muslims did not have to regard themselves just
as a small, vulnerable minority; they were part of a truly global
and powerful movement. Ahmed said: "If we were not treated
with respect then we were capable of forcing others to respect
London, Lord Ahmed, Britain's first Muslim peer, said he had
been "appalled" by the award to a man he accused of
having "blood on his hands".
UK's first Muslim life peer has joined forces with a number
of British-based Islamists to sign a letter praising Turkey's
Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan, who walked out of a recent
debate after a bitter argument with President Shimon Peres over
Nazir Ahmed recently led a delegation to the Turkish Embassy
in London to pay tribute to Erdogan for walking off the stage
during the appearance with Peres at last month's Davos Conference,
according to a London-based think tank, the Center for Social
letter was signed by a number of radical Islamists, including
Mohamed Ali Harrath, who was convicted in absentia in 1992 for
terrorist-related offenses by a Tunisian court, and Mohammed
Sawalha, described by a US court as a former Hamas leader, and
presented by the delegation to the embassy.
was on Interpol's most-wanted list, and had connections to Osama
bin Laden, the CSC said.
to the BBC, Sawalha masterminded much of Hamas's political and
military strategy in the West Bank. He also served as president
of the Muslim Association of Britain, described in parliament
as the British wing of the Muslim Brotherhood.
a document submitted as evidence in a US federal court, the
movement's goal is described as a kind of grand jihad aimed
at destroying Western civilization from within and "sabotaging
its miserable house by their hands and the hands of the believers
so that it is eliminated, and God's religion is made victorious
over all other religions."
being part of this delegation, Lord Ahmed is allying himself
with some of the most radical Islamists in the UK," CSC
researcher Robin Simcox said.
Pollard of the Jewish Chronicle writes: "On February
23, Lord Ahmed hosted a book launch in the House of Lords for
a man going by the name of Israel Shamir. Israel Shamir
is, in fact, a Swedish-domiciled anti-Semite also known as Jöran
Jermas. The gist of Shamir - Jermass speech at the meeting
can be gleaned from its title, Jews and the Empire.
It included observations such as: All the [political]
parties are Zionist-infiltrated. Your newspapers
belong to Zionists . . . Jews indeed own, control and edit a
big share of mass media, this mainstay of Imperial thinking.
In the Middle East we have just one reason for wars, terror
and trouble and that is Jewish supremacy drive . . .
in Iraq, the US and its British dependency continue the same
old fight for ensuring Jewish supremacy in the Middle East.
The Jews like an Empire . . . This love of Empire explains
the easiness Jews change their allegiance . . . Simple minds
call it treacherous behaviour, but it is actually
love of Empire per se. Now, there is a large and
thriving Muslim community in England . . . they are now on the
side of freedom, against the Empire, and they are not afraid
of enforcers of Judaic values, Jewish or Gentile. This community
is very important in order to turn the tide.
Why would Lord Ahmed have hosted such a man in the Lords, asks
It is, of course, possible that Lord Ahmed had no idea that
Shamir - Jermas was a rabid anti-Semite. Yet it takes only a
quick Google to discover his views and background. He has worked
for Zavtra, Russias most anti-Semitic publication, and
is allied with the Vanguard News Network, set up by an American,
Alex Linder a man so extreme that he was even ostracised
by the US neo-Nazi National Alliance.
did nothing to dissociate himself from Shamir and to this day
must, we assume, be proud of having issues his invitation.
that gives us a pretty good idea of what he considers acceptable.
David T takes up the latest instalment in the tale of Lord Ahmed:
"Geert Wilders is a Dutch politician who has moved in a
very few years from a liberal to an anti-immigration position,
that has brought him close to the neo Nazi party, Vlaams Belang.
He is facing prosecution in the Netherlands, in connection with
his film Fitna.
A member of the House of Lords has proposed a screening of Geert
Wilders Fitna. This is what happened next: The British
Parliament has canceled the showing of a controversial film
Fitna by the right-win Dutch MP Geert Wilders following
vociferous protest by the Muslim community. The screening was
to take place on January 29 at the House of Lords. The decision
to cancel the showing was taken on Friday when Lord Nazir Ahmed
had a meeting with the Government Chief Whip of the House of
Lords and Leader of the House of Lords, together with representatives
from the Muslim Council of Britain, British Muslim Forum and
other representatives from the British Muslim community. The
Far-right Dutch politician will now be put on trial for his
public statements against Islam. As a result of the meeting
at the House of Lords not going ahead, all protests and demonstrations
have now been canceled Lord Ahmed termed the decision as a
victory for the Muslim community.
David T writes with regard to Ahmed's invitation to Shamir:
There were no meetings with whips or leaders. There were no
demonstrations. The meeting was not cancelled.
think it's pretty clear where we Jews and Christians stand with
Lord Ahmed now.
Lord Ahmed is selective about the types of free speech he chooses
so is the current British government.
Great Britain, famous for appeasing Adolph Hitler a half century
ago, is appeasing today all those who seek to replace English
law with Islamic Sharia law.
all, many English MP's need the Muslim vote to stay in power
and the Arab oil rich states to finance their next electoral
which once stood proudly as an icon for freedom and democracy,
today allows supporters of Islamic suicide bombers to enter
their nation while banning those who wish to talk about 9/11
and 7/7 Islamic terror London bombings.